MORE LIB MISINFORMATION ON COSTA MESA SCHOOLS & FOLEY'S CRIME PREVENTION LASAGNA
In CM PRESS # 64, we refuted some comments in a post from a Costa Mesa resident named Greg Ridge (a Flopsy Foley supporter from all reports) who often posts on the almost daily Daily Pilot site under the name "gericault."
As is usual with libs, Ridge just seems to write things with no facts behind them.
At any rate, immediately below is an excerpt from Ridge's screwy post. And, right below the excerpt are the facts from the NMUSD website that tell the truth and prove that Ridge doesn't know what he's talking about. For your convenience, we've put his full post further down and here's the link to the almost daily Daily Pilot so you can see his post with the column about Flopsy Foley.
RIDGE WROTE: "Both my children attended Victoria elementary.... This highly awarded...school can go head to head with anything Newport has to offer."
Really? It "can go head to head with anything Newport has to offer"? Sorry, that's not even close. In fact, when we checked all the elementary schools in Newport, we couldn't find a single one that scored as low as Victoria.
But, check for yourself at the NMUSD link. Maybe we missed one. What we actually see on the NMUSD website is that the schools in Newport Beach that are closest to Costa Mesa have lower scores than those in Newport that are further away. This is because the ones closest to Costa Mesa have many Costa Mesa students in them. But, even those that are closest to Costa Mesa still have higher scores than Victoria.
Here are the 2008-09 scores from Victoria from the NMUSD website:
English Language Arts: 71% of students scored proficient or advanced.
Mathematics: 73% of students scored proficient or advanced.
Science: 78% of students scored proficient or advanced.
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Compare that with Andersen school in Newport Beach:
English Language Arts: 90% of students scored proficient or advanced.
Mathematics: 86% of the students scored proficient or advanced.
Science: 85% of students scored proficient or advanced.
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As mentioned above, here's Ridge's full comment from the almost daily Daily Pilot:
gericault wrote on Mar 4, 2010 10:41 PM:
" Well spoken stevemesinger, Estancia is the best biggest lttle high school around. My daughter is straight A's and thriving.The campus is great and the new improvements first class.My son attends Tewinkle Middle, and the improvements under Dr. Bauermiester have been amazing. Huge test score increases. Both my children attended Victoria elementary with outstanding results. This highly awarded top notch All American, California Distinguished school can go head to head with anything Newport has to offer.I'm sick of these "improvers' telling us how awful everything is. I'm there everyday and have been for almost ten years.Katrina has been too. "
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THE CM PRESS POINT: We want to see Costa Mesa improved. To be improved, we have to honestly look at the conditions in this city. This means we have to rely on hard facts, not PC gushy liberal emotions that aren't backed up with facts.
We don't want to knock the schools or students in Costa Mesa, but we don't want to pretend something that isn't true. To fix a problem, you have to know you have a problem. Costa Mesa does, indeed, have a problem. Pretending otherwise doesn't fix the problem.
And, the schools are only part of the deeper problem.
In CM PRESS # 64, we refuted some comments in a post from a Costa Mesa resident named Greg Ridge (a Flopsy Foley supporter from all reports) who often posts on the almost daily Daily Pilot site under the name "gericault."
As is usual with libs, Ridge just seems to write things with no facts behind them.
At any rate, immediately below is an excerpt from Ridge's screwy post. And, right below the excerpt are the facts from the NMUSD website that tell the truth and prove that Ridge doesn't know what he's talking about. For your convenience, we've put his full post further down and here's the link to the almost daily Daily Pilot so you can see his post with the column about Flopsy Foley.
RIDGE WROTE: "Both my children attended Victoria elementary.... This highly awarded...school can go head to head with anything Newport has to offer."
Really? It "can go head to head with anything Newport has to offer"? Sorry, that's not even close. In fact, when we checked all the elementary schools in Newport, we couldn't find a single one that scored as low as Victoria.
But, check for yourself at the NMUSD link. Maybe we missed one. What we actually see on the NMUSD website is that the schools in Newport Beach that are closest to Costa Mesa have lower scores than those in Newport that are further away. This is because the ones closest to Costa Mesa have many Costa Mesa students in them. But, even those that are closest to Costa Mesa still have higher scores than Victoria.
Here are the 2008-09 scores from Victoria from the NMUSD website:
English Language Arts: 71% of students scored proficient or advanced.
Mathematics: 73% of students scored proficient or advanced.
Science: 78% of students scored proficient or advanced.
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Compare that with Andersen school in Newport Beach:
English Language Arts: 90% of students scored proficient or advanced.
Mathematics: 86% of the students scored proficient or advanced.
Science: 85% of students scored proficient or advanced.
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As mentioned above, here's Ridge's full comment from the almost daily Daily Pilot:
gericault wrote on Mar 4, 2010 10:41 PM:
" Well spoken stevemesinger, Estancia is the best biggest lttle high school around. My daughter is straight A's and thriving.The campus is great and the new improvements first class.My son attends Tewinkle Middle, and the improvements under Dr. Bauermiester have been amazing. Huge test score increases. Both my children attended Victoria elementary with outstanding results. This highly awarded top notch All American, California Distinguished school can go head to head with anything Newport has to offer.I'm sick of these "improvers' telling us how awful everything is. I'm there everyday and have been for almost ten years.Katrina has been too. "
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THE CM PRESS POINT: We want to see Costa Mesa improved. To be improved, we have to honestly look at the conditions in this city. This means we have to rely on hard facts, not PC gushy liberal emotions that aren't backed up with facts.
We don't want to knock the schools or students in Costa Mesa, but we don't want to pretend something that isn't true. To fix a problem, you have to know you have a problem. Costa Mesa does, indeed, have a problem. Pretending otherwise doesn't fix the problem.
And, the schools are only part of the deeper problem.
How do libs handle our problems besides singing kumbaya and burying their heads in the sand? Well, when there was a gang murder in Costa Mesa a couple of years ago, Councilwoman Foley gave a good example of the lib approach. She delivered lasagna to the grieving family.
The CM PRESS has a different approach. We don't think there should be any grieving families in Costa Mesa. Not one. We think the crimes should be headed off before they happen by having the Costa Mesa City Council face reality and do the things that will rid this city of the crime and gangs.
The CM PRESS has a different approach. We don't think there should be any grieving families in Costa Mesa. Not one. We think the crimes should be headed off before they happen by having the Costa Mesa City Council face reality and do the things that will rid this city of the crime and gangs.
We don't need phony politicians baking lasagna after someone is shot to death. And,we don't need people claiming all is well and that the schools are great, when things aren't all well and the schools aren't that great.
But remember, it is not the NMUSD, the teachers or the schools that are the problem. It is a city problem. When you turn a city into a slum city, you have slum problems.
To improve the city and the schools you need to thin out the slums. There is no other way.
Costa Mesa is out of balance. We have too many slum apartments and they're breeding grounds for crime and social dysfunction as well as being safe havens for gangs.
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DUI CHECKPOINT TONIGHT--HARBOR/PETERSON PLACE
The Costa Mesa Police Department will be conducting a DUI/Drivers License checkpoint on Saturday, March 6th, from 8:00 p.m. to 2:00 a.m. at Harbor Boulevard at Peterson Place. In an effort to reduce the number of persons killed and injured in alcohol involved crashes, DUI checkpoints are conducted to identify offenders and get them off the street, as well as educate the public on the dangers of impaired driving.
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CIVIL RIGHTS COMPLAINT FILED AGAINST DE KALB SCHOOLS
Link
Too many Whites in the high achieving classes. Part of the claim is that the classes are located in White areas and this makes it inconvenient for Blacks to take part.
Switch to Costa Mesa...
Costa Mesa has four non-profits whose clients are only Hispanic. You know this because we reported it before. A couple of years ago, one of the heads of one of these non-profits said they're all Hispanic because they're located in Hispanic neighborhoods on the Westside.
Our comment at the time was that the non-profits should be more centrally located, say at the Downtown Community Center, and that the non-profits should reach out to non-Hispanics and should try to look more like Costa Mesa.
Will we soon see a Civil Rights complaint against the City of Costa Mesa, which gives our tax money to these exclusively Hispanic non-profits?
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Those are our opinions. Thanks for reading them.
DUI CHECKPOINT TONIGHT--HARBOR/PETERSON PLACE
The Costa Mesa Police Department will be conducting a DUI/Drivers License checkpoint on Saturday, March 6th, from 8:00 p.m. to 2:00 a.m. at Harbor Boulevard at Peterson Place. In an effort to reduce the number of persons killed and injured in alcohol involved crashes, DUI checkpoints are conducted to identify offenders and get them off the street, as well as educate the public on the dangers of impaired driving.
# # #
CIVIL RIGHTS COMPLAINT FILED AGAINST DE KALB SCHOOLS
Link
Too many Whites in the high achieving classes. Part of the claim is that the classes are located in White areas and this makes it inconvenient for Blacks to take part.
Switch to Costa Mesa...
Costa Mesa has four non-profits whose clients are only Hispanic. You know this because we reported it before. A couple of years ago, one of the heads of one of these non-profits said they're all Hispanic because they're located in Hispanic neighborhoods on the Westside.
Our comment at the time was that the non-profits should be more centrally located, say at the Downtown Community Center, and that the non-profits should reach out to non-Hispanics and should try to look more like Costa Mesa.
Will we soon see a Civil Rights complaint against the City of Costa Mesa, which gives our tax money to these exclusively Hispanic non-profits?
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Those are our opinions. Thanks for reading them.
To CM PRESS.
ReplyDeleteWell, I wasn't planning spending my Sunday pouring over school report card data, but I've been called out.
I never knew a simple support statement of my local schools and the success that I have personally experienced with my own children would garner such scrutiny.
I would have been extremely careful choosing my words had I known.
These School report cards are highly broken down into very specific categories. The reason for this is so that you can compare the exact same criteria for each school. This data is broken down by each ethnic group and socio-economic status.This way if one school has a large high performing asian population it can be properly calculated against a school with a large special disability group or English as a Second Language class.
I made it simple. I compared the White Ethnicity w/ the White Ethnicity for each school. My kids are white.
I believe what the CM Press is trying to show, is that our Costa Mesa "White" students are suffering under the weight of a large hispanic population.
The facts don't support this premise.
The data I use to measure the over all success of these students is by the Academic Performance Index. This measures the over all academic performance broken down by ethnicity for each of the last three years.
The Academic Performance Index (API) is an annual measure of the academic performance and progress of schools in California. API
scores range from 200 to 1,000, with a statewide target of 800. Detailed information about the API can be found at the CDE Academic
Performance Index (API) Web page at http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/ac/ap/.
API Scores for The White (non-hispanic) segments of each school
School Score Change +
Mariners 944 10
Newport Coast 942 27
Victoria 922 21 Westside CM
Eastbluff 919 23
Newport Elementary 892 3
CDM 877 13
Edison 834 No Data
Estancia 832 34
This is a true "apple to apples" comparison of our schools compare against each other.
To further extrapolitate this is the breakdown of socio- economically disadvantaged kids in three different schools..
School Population % API Score
Estancia 64% 691
Newport Harbor 29% 698
CDM 4% No Data
As you can see there is very little variation in the overall Academic Performance Index. What you do see is a huge difference in the numbers of population. These huge differences in the population demographics will cause large fluctuations in the over all academic scores from each individual school. Those " over all" scores do not paint an accurate picture when you use them in a school to school comparison.
These are the "facts" as I read them. Thank you for providing me the link.
Greg Ridge wrote: "I made it simple. I compared the White Ethnicity w/ the White Ethnicity for each school. My kids are white."
ReplyDeleteSo, Greg Ridge, you're saying that different racial groups score at different levels and that Whites (like your kids) in schools that are mostly non-White will score pretty much like Whites in almost exclusively White schools?
What do you say to people who say that such thinking is racist?
Talk about a Great White Father mentality.. Thanks Greg. Keep a look out for those poor “special disability groups”. BTW their families don't see speaking Spanish as a disability. I get the feeling from Greg's comments that he doesn't care about the school as a whole only that his two white kids are passing. "Hurry to the car kids you don't want any of that special disability rubbing off on you..."
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